Kleiner Lawyer Says Pao Twisted Facts to Get a Big Payout


Ellen Pao. Ellen Pao. Christie Hemm Klok/WIRED

Early on in her closing argument, defense attorney Lynne Hermle showed the jury a picture of the plaintiff, Ellen Pao, surrounded by photos of 13 colleagues she had clashed with during her time at Kleiner Perkins, the legendary venture capital firm she’s suing for gender discrimination. The pictures ranged from Pao’s own assistant to her ex-boss and mentor, John Doerr. The slide on the projector was titled, “Pao’s Numerous Conflicts: What Is the Common Denominator?”


According to Hermle, what they all had in common was Pao. Pao had conflicts with virtually everyone she worked with closely, Hermle argued as she began recapping the defense’s case late yesterday. Closing arguments continued this morning. The crux of Kleiner’s defense is that Pao herself was the problem at the firm, not her gender. The only people who she didn’t have issues with, Hermle argued in San Francisco Superior Court, were employees with whom she didn’t work closely in the first place.


Pao is suing her former employer, whose full name is Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, for gender discrimination and retaliation. She claims she was unfairly passed over while men were promoted; when she complained about her issues, she says, she was penalized and eventually terminated. The trial, now in its fifth week, has sparked soul-searching about the lack of diversity in a tech industry where the workforce is dominated by men.


The case is expected to go the jury for deliberations later today after Pao’s team presents its rebuttal. Pao attorney Alan Exelrod summed up her case yesterday in a three-and-a-half-hour argument that Pao brought in the returns while men got the promotions.


Nothing to Do with Gender


Hermle argued that Pao’s failure to succeed at Kleiner Perkins had nothing to do with gender or retaliation. On the contrary, she said, Pao saw an opportunity for a big payout. And, when she saw the writing on the wall that she would probably be fired, Hermle said, she went on the defensive. “Her complaints did not cause the lack of promotion,” said Hermle. “The lack of promotion caused Ellen Pao’s complaints.”


Throughout her closing argument, Hermle sought to show that Pao blamed others for her own failings and that she was simply not cut out to be a venture capitalist. Pao twisted facts to support her allegations, Hermle said, and she never intended to support other women. ‘The circumstances show you the complaints for Ellen Pao were made for one purpose,” Hermle said. “A huge payout for Team Ellen.”


Pao Was Ahead of the Game From the Start


In 2005, her first year at the firm, Pao had already started ahead of her peers, Hermle argued. She had famed VC John Doerr’s support and mentorship from the beginning, but she did not succeed because she had her own advancement in mind rather than the good of the group, Hermle said. “She was not a fit for the team-based culture at the heart of venture capital, and she wanted credit,” Hermle said. “She was dismissive of colleagues over and over.”


On the other hand, Hermle said, Pao’s peers did what they could to overcome the criticisms they met early on in their careers. Pao, meanwhile, “refused to deepen her expertise to a thought-leader level,” Hermle said, intimating that because Pao had already minted a sterling academic record, she may have thought she was a success “in her own mind, and didn’t need to fix anything.”


But when Pao started to work closely with others in a team setting, she argued, her negative traits emerged. Hermle pointed to accusatory messages, unpleasant emails, constant complaints about colleagues—even a complaint about a peer “while his mother was dying of brain cancer in China,” Hermle said.


Twisting Facts


As soon as Pao realized she wasn’t doing well for the firm, Hermle said, she began to collect evidence for the suit against Kleiner. She sent emails to herself, kept text messages of an affair between her and a married colleague “only when things were going badly,” and got a lawyer to represent her during an internal investigation in which the firm looked into her claims of gender bias.


One by one, Hermle sought to poke holes in Pao’s version of events at Kleiner that allegedly showed gender bias No one but Pao could back up her claim that a male partner had said “women kill the buzz,” she said. Many men were asked to sit in the back and take notes during off-sites. And a senior colleague’s Valentine’s Day gift of a Buddhist-themed poetry book that Pao called inappropriately erotic had a perfectly innocent explantation. Events that allegedly showed bias lacked context, or may not have even occurred, Hermle said.


Finally, Hermle implored the jury, consider the highly successful women at Kleiner who declined to join Pao’s suit. Not only did they refuse to join, Hermle said, but they testified had seen no discrimination at the firm.



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